Tuesday, October 7, 2008

Week 7 Blog

Week 7 Blog

Great job on last week's blogs!

Read Case Study: Professor Rogers' Trial (p. 121 in your book) and then answer the following questions.

1. Decide which character was most responsible for the group's grade of a "D." Explain why you think this character is the most responsible.

2. Imagine that the character you decided was most responsible for the poor grade in the case study is now part of a group project for one of your classes here at CMC. How would you deal with this group member? If you had decided that Professor Rogers was the most
responsible, explain how you would deal with both a difficult group member and an instructor who appears to grade group work unfairly.

Remember...your blogs are due by Friday, Oct. 10th at noon!

For next week's class (Wednesday Oct. 15th): read Chapter 5.

Have a great week!

13 comments:

College 101 Faculty said...

1.) I think all of the members have the same responsibillity for their grade, maby Anthony and Donald more than Silvie, because Anthony thaught he can do the speech on his own, and he can decide what his teammembers have to say, but he didn´t work as a teammember, he worked as a leader. Donald is also responsible for the grade, because he didn´t came to the meetings, and he was not interested in getting a good grad. Silvie has the less responisbility for the grade, because she tried to hold the team together and told Anthony that he can´t be the leader, because it´s teamwork. So she got upset, what is to understand, and just did the presentation on her own way.

2) If I had Anthony or Donald in my group I would talk to them and try to explain them that they can not work like that, because it´s unfair against the other teammembers, and if it wouldn´t help I would try to talk to my instructor, but if the instructor would be like Professor Rogers, who was not really listening to the problems in the group, I would speak to an other instructor of the same course and maby he or she could talk to my instructor or could give me some usefull tips.

Elisabeth Mucke

anna belle said...

1.I believe that Donald was mostly responsible for the groups grade of a “D”. Donald only showed up once for the group meetings and didn’t prepare for the trail at all. He seemed to rely on his group to do the whole project even though the teacher said everyone has to be involved.
2.If Donald was my partner on a project here at CMC I would demanded that he gives me some time out of his day to work on the project, maybe during lunch or right after class. I would also give him the easiest part of the project, so if he didn’t do his part or did it poorly, not to many points would be deducted. During future projects I would make sure that he was not put in my group and explain to the teacher why.

Evangelina Lopez said...

-The three students were the responsible for their actual grade. First, Anthony didn't have to be so bossy from the start. That really annoys group members, they have all the same responsibilities for their grades and they actually had to work harder because the grading was as a whole.
I am on Silvie's side though, she didn't have a matter in the saying, but what she did wrong is that she shouldn't have spoke after Anthony, even though she wanted to, because the time limit was over. What she should have done is stay quiet and talk to the teacher and explain to her what happened between their group.
And Donald doesn't even deserve a grade.


-If Donald was in my group for an assignment in school I would do the same thing I did when I was in school. In school every-time that one group member for an assignment didn't cooperate I would just tell the teacher about it so that he wouldn't get a grade. Because it's just not fair.
I think the instructor did the right thing for giving them a grade, she is right they have to learn, teamwork is everything in life, they failed because they couldn't communicate and they did bad decisions.

College 101 Faculty said...

1. Decide which character was most responsible for the group's grade of a "D." Explain why you think this character is the most responsible.

I don't think that it was just one persons fault. i think that it was all of them becuase they were not able to work things out. But at the same time, i think they might have been able to work together better if Anthony wasn't so controlling and listening to what Silvie had to say and didn't cooperate with her at all. Then, on the speech, he did it all himself and didn't give his team a chance to talk. So i think he would be the most responsible but it really was all thier faults.

2. Imagine that the character you decided was most responsible for the poor grade in the case study is now part of a group project for one of your classes here at CMC. How would you deal with this group member? If you had decided that Professor Rogers was the most
responsible, explain how you would deal with both a difficult group member and an instructor who appears to grade group work unfairly.

If Anthony was in my group, i would either tell the teacher or just do what he says. If i told the teacher, then maybe he would have had more leniency on not giving everyone the same grade or he could help us work something out. If i were to just do what Anthony said, we probably wouldn't get into any fights and it might be possible to work things out.

Stephanie Ramstetter

Ian Berry said...

I feel it was Anthony's fault for ripping the team apart and receiving a "D" in the end. If it wasn't for his lack of confidence in the other teammates and actually giving them a chance, they'd all probably do a little better. Maybe a C. I say this because he had the responsibility to gather the team up and if he wanted a good grade, we was going to need them both no mattet what! And when he decided to do it all by himself, he really did screw it up for the rest of them as well.

If I was in that situation and I had a partner that just didn't care I would probably do the following. First, I'd stress the importance of showing up to the meetings and actually help that person. Unlike the idiot Anthony who just complained a lot, I would give some support and make it something they had to accomplish. I would continuesly poke at him/her and make sure they had everything going well. I'd also tell the entire group that its going to be a 33/33/33 group presentation. Everyone will have equal parts and in the end, i'd almost bet the teacher would be more happy with three people sharing equal parts (whether they know it or not) than a cocky guy who takes 17 minutes, a pissed off girl who explains everything again for 7 minutes, and someone who can't even read.

-Ian-

Anonymous said...

I think Anthony was greatly at fault. He didn't think the other members could do it well enough so he took it into his own hands. If he had worked with Silvie and organized it all together, I think it would have gone better. Silvie wanted to succeed on the project and the 2 could have easily worked together to pull it off better. Donald was somewhat at fault because he didn't really prepare with the team, but in a way he is like me in that he doesn't always want to work in groups, but can pull it off and put something together which seemed that he had done eventhough the time limit didn't allow him to explain.

I do not believe the professor had much to do with the problem. She made her points clear. If I was in this group, I would want everyone to work well together to get the better grade. Instead of saying one person was in charge, have everyone have an equal say in how it was presented. If they still wouldn't cooperate, I'd talk to them and tell them that we need to work together or this project isn't going to work out. Hopefully it would all work out!

Tony Virgona

Jacob McGowen said...

I think everyone deserves blame. Anthony was like a dictator, doing everything because he thought he knew what was best. By doing the work himself, he rambled on for too long and hurt his case. He is to blame for their downfall. Donald is just a pathetic loser for not even trying. His seventy-five second presentation proves that he could not be depended on. I would definetely not want these guys in my group. I would want Silvie, because she realizes the values of teamwork when her other classmates do not. If she were the leader, I think the group could have won their case and recieved a better grade.

If I had the curse of having Anthony or David in my group, I would set things straight. I would keep David from being such a dictator and inform him that group work is a democracy. As for Donald, I would lay down the law and make Donald realize the consequences of his selfish actions due to not participating. If I had problems with a group member like Anthony or Donald, I would go straight to the phone, dial up my professor and arrange a group conference. In this conference, we would each tell of our issues with one another. The professor would listen and then would perhaps give us advice on how to coexist. However, I believe that we should never back down working together as a group. With few exceptions, we should learn how to work together. For there are a lot of uncooperative people in this work. It is with such people that we must try even harder to cooperate and get the job done.

ryan said...

i think that donald is the most resposible mainly due to the fact that if there is one person in a group that does not commit it bings the whole group down, on the other hand anthony is a close second to donald because its definitly ok to take the role o leadership and be directiv but not bossy you have earn or work for your teams respect.
when donald showed up to the meetings i would try and give him some direction on how to d his work and then maybe come talk to him outside of class and see what i can do to help him.
Ryan

EDDc said...

I think that Anthony is most to blaim but in reality they are all to blaim. Donalds lazyness threw the other two into a power search. Anthony's greed and wanting the A for himself making Silvia feel left out and frustrated. All in all I think it was Anthonys fault because him and Silvia could of worked a well thought case if they worked together.

If I was to work with Anthony; I really dont know what I would do with him. I would make sure that everyone in the group got their chance to contribute. Anthony's greed is something that will never work well with group projects. The instructor taught them a good lesson on how to work as a team. If it was a professor that had some problems then I would just have to deal with it. My boss someday is probably going to be a dick, but im just gonna have to suck it up.

Eric said...

I think that it is the instructors fault because i feel its the instructors job to evaluate individual grades. The overall grade of the three for the class is seperate and so should each of there grades be.

If i had an instructor that was like this one i would honestly just suck it up and work better as a team than they did.

jess said...

1. It's obvious who is the most responsible for the bad grade, Donald. It might be a bit harsh to put it all on him but he didnt apply himself at all. At least Silvie and Anthony showed up, Donald couldnt even do that. Ya, so he showed up once... just to slow the team down even more. The teacher definatly had nothing to do with it and the other 2 students have no power over what he does with his life. They set a date and time, Donald is expected to be there. I hope he has a quilty conscious becasue the shotty grade was all his fault.

2.Uhhhhh i hate having those kids in my groups. If i had a "Donald" put in my group, i would try my hardest to be switched by the teacher. If the professer is one of them stubborn types, i would basically do the project assuming "Donald" wouldn't do his part. We could separate the parts of the project equally, including giving "Donald" a part. I would do my part and their part, just in case. If "donald ended up doing their part, good for him, my extra work was pointless but i would rather be safe than sorry. One aspect of this whole problem i didnt realize at first is the professor and how they grade the assignments. I understand grading the group not the individual, to an extent. If a student is as worthless as Donald, and it is an obvious fact, punish that student. Don't give the rest of the students bad grade because they showed up and did their work. Guarnteed, they tryed to get "Donald" to help out but their efforts were unsuccessful. Basically, i dont think it's fair to let on person pull down an entire team.

College 101 Faculty said...

Great job on these blogs this week. I think everyone here has a pretty good idea of what team work should look like and each of you had creative and useful solutions for how to solve the problems when working with others who do not work as they should. Jen Franke

College 101 Faculty said...

Great comments class! You all really took the time to think it through and came up with realistic expectations for group work. Nicely done!

Also, congrats to almost 100% of the class getting it in by Friday at Noon! Isn't it great to have the weekend to yourself? :) Woo HOO!! ~ Shawndra